tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post844863073238059463..comments2023-10-31T06:32:05.082-05:00Comments on Biblical Manhood: The Cosmo Complex ConfirmedAnakin Niceguyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09175647581810782580noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-15681522942883908532009-09-24T16:38:07.763-05:002009-09-24T16:38:07.763-05:00I believe that the people on this blog can discern...<i>I believe that the people on this blog can discern our fruit and make their own decisions as to my veracity.</i><br /><br />BingoLearnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-65695720481510538242009-09-24T16:17:22.849-05:002009-09-24T16:17:22.849-05:00Other anon, can I have you call the state so I can...Other anon, can I have you call the state so I can get out of my professional tax? They are so sure I am bona fide that they send me a bill every year. Two bills in fact. And my malpractice insurance is a few dollars more than that. So I wish those folks were as sure of my professional status as you.<br /><br />You are either trying to insult me, embarass me here on the blog, or are delusional. <br /><br />Random, bitter people on the internet do not matter enough to insult me. Confuse me, sure, insult me, it just does not work. I believe that the people on this blog can discern our fruit and make their own decisions as to my veracity. They know the fruit of the spirit and the fruit of the flesh and the Holy Spirit will guide them. I will trust that. And I am sorry if you are ill. Really.<br /><br />I am sorry you are so upset, I wish there were something I could do for you. I remind myself, and others here, that you are a child of God, so God bless and keep you. But I see no point in discussing anything else with you. It does not go anywhere. Know that you are in my prayers and that God loves you when nobody else will. <br /><br />TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-53226667536930043742009-09-24T14:52:59.849-05:002009-09-24T14:52:59.849-05:00"But other anon, why are you fixated, and so ..."But other anon, why are you fixated, and so wrong about my professional status?"<br /><br />Why are you claiming that your state calls you a psychologist when you aren't even licenced by them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-71883256168347511412009-09-24T12:58:34.567-05:002009-09-24T12:58:34.567-05:00Modern neurology is not psychobabbele. This stuff ...Modern neurology is not psychobabbele. This stuff is based on brain scans.<br /><br />I disagree about Jesus clearing the temple having no basis in hurt or fear. I believe He may very well have been hurt for His children who were being taken advantage of by the money changers. I think He weeps for the abused. I think it breaks His heart.<br /><br />And I think it makes Him mad. So there we agree. I can also see your point that He may have acted out of righteous indignation. God is entitled to that, you and me, not so much. But I will consider that point.<br /><br />But other anon, why are you fixated, and so wrong about my professional status? It is weird and a little creepy. I think you have posted more about my job on this blog than I have. That is weird and creepy too. And goodness you are certainly angry. Hurt too I bet.<br /><br />God bless you, I hope you feel better. You continue in my prayers, though it would be easier to pray for you with something other than Other Anon to go by. God knows you though, so I rest secure in that.<br /><br />TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-69345978215641015062009-09-24T11:50:52.979-05:002009-09-24T11:50:52.979-05:00"What you are missing is the role of the amyg..."What you are missing is the role of the amygdala. The amygdala is a very primitive part of the brain, it is present in reptiles. It is also VERY powerful, initiating the fight or flight response, or getting angry or afraid in response to perceived threat. It is both closer to the visual and auditory and aroma centers of the brain and a faster responding part of the brain. It preceedes the slower, more thoughtful frontal sections of the brain. This more complete neurological understanding supports what I said."<br /><br />No dice. You're basically declaring all emotions as one and the same. Anger is not "typically"<br />"a secondary emotion" in response to fear or hurt, as you said. It is far more primary than that -- when you feel frustrated when you can't find your car keys, is that because you're more hurt or afraid? Perhaps in some situations, but for the most part anger is a primary emotion that stands on its own. Jesus did not turn over the tables in the temple because he felt hurt or afraid, he was angry, and righteously so. <br /><br />Cut and paste all you want, Trey, but what you are claiming about anger is just modern psychobabble.<br /><br />"I guess you know his legal name and the state he practices in?"<br /><br />Yes. His surname is not Mink, but starts with the same letter. No one with that surname is in the directory as a licenced psychologist (but there is one who was turned down for that licence).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-90643229309333671262009-09-24T11:06:01.503-05:002009-09-24T11:06:01.503-05:00The insults and putdowns are a little confusing th...<i>The insults and putdowns are a little confusing though as I have interacted with you in a completely respectful manner. Do you generally have difficulties in growing combative and insulting with people that graciously disagree with you?</i><br /><br />Catwoman is like that. She's patronizing and dismissive in the worst way. Just overlook her arrogance.Someonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-47040405020437793152009-09-24T10:00:25.938-05:002009-09-24T10:00:25.938-05:00Continued:
There is a neurological theory for th...Continued: <br /><br />There is a neurological theory for that too! Our prefrontal orbital cortex, or POC, is currently understood to be the nexus of our attachment ability. It develops from 20 weeks gestation to 9 months post partum. It controls a couple of interesting things and has very specific environmental needs. <br /><br />This part of the brain develops best in a calm pregnancy. It also requires a calm and attached infancy in order to develop. The sad and chilling aspect of this is that the POC does not develop after 9 months to a year of our lives. It is done.<br /><br />It seems to regulate our ability to attach to others and our ability to calm and soothe ourselves when upset as it mediates the information from the amygdala. It is part of the brakes on our panic and anger.<br /><br />So people whose mom's were stressed and who grew up in emotionally impoverished environments are compromised in their ability to care for other people and their ability to think while they are upset. <br /><br />The sociological implications are vast. Single moms are more stressed. Their children are more likely to be neurologically compromised. Growing up in a single parent home is the best statistical predictor of poverty and being incarcerated. <br /><br />A poorly performing POC also makes people have great difficulty conducting a civil disagreement. Here is a link about research on impulsive aggression in people with borderline personality disorder and the POC. The interesting part is around page 5. And sorry for the huge link. <br /><br />http://www.mountsinai.org/img/vgn_lnk/Regular%20Content/File/Research/Mood%20and%20Personality%20Disorders%20Research%20Program/imaging_genetics.pdf<br /><br />Not that I am a psychologist or anything. LOL! Yes, you are calling me a liar, and yes you are wrong. What do you hope to accomplish by saying otherwise?<br /><br />I can see that I need to add you to my prayer list as well. Please brothers, let us all pray for vysota and the other Anon. <br /><br />God bless and keep them, may our Saviour make Himself known to them, to show them His love and desire to heal them the way He healed us. Father please grant us all more love and patience and goodness, fill us with your Spirit and help us to conduct ourselves in ways that honor You and witness to Your love and transforming power. Thank you God for these two of Your children, bring them close to You, guide us in the ways of love toward them. For only You are good, and only through Christ can we please You. In Jesus name.<br /><br />Amen.<br /><br />TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-14176784514626854862009-09-24T10:00:05.461-05:002009-09-24T10:00:05.461-05:00Other anon wrote: "and left-frontal emotions ...Other anon wrote: "and left-frontal emotions as "approach" emotions (happiness, amusement interest and anger), because they are involved with people engaging the world. Anger is clearly physiologically distinct from fear, disgust and sadness. It is different autonomically (eg. the hands get hot in anger and cold in fear)."<br /><br />This is all accepted neurology. What you are missing is the role of the amygdala. The amygdala is a very primitive part of the brain, it is present in reptiles. It is also VERY powerful, initiating the fight or flight response, or getting angry or afraid in response to perceived threat. It is both closer to the visual and auditory and aroma centers of the brain and a faster responding part of the brain. It preceedes the slower, more thoughtful frontal sections of the brain. This more complete neurological understanding supports what I said. But I am always open to your thoughts and appreciate your response.<br /><br />Here is a nice link that covers this in laymans terms for anyone interested. Check out pages 17 through 21 or so.<br /><br />http://books.google.com/books?id=zE2X_xiq_OoC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=amygdala+anger&source=bl&ots=77uTNud-G2&sig=4fzjDH63JQo1FgZZlmrfUOX3_qU&hl=en&ei=c4W7StHSCZPcNf_szccL&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=amygdala%20anger&f=false<br /><br />Wow, that was a LONG link.<br /><br />Other Anon, it is more accurate to say that I appreciate the thoughtful and discursive portions of your response. The insults and putdowns are a little confusing though as I have interacted with you in a completely respectful manner. Do you generally have difficulties in growing combative and insulting with people that graciously disagree with you?<br /><br />More in the next post.<br /><br />TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-3562189757616037532009-09-24T09:19:17.628-05:002009-09-24T09:19:17.628-05:00Novaseeker -- I read it in this book called "...Novaseeker -- I read it in this book called "The Bible". Your local library might have a copy.vysotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06107424803051683881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-44644735417666891682009-09-24T05:23:32.205-05:002009-09-24T05:23:32.205-05:00Whether one chooses to participate in recreational...<i>Whether one chooses to participate in recreational sex is entirely immaterial to one's salvation. </i><br /><br />Dunno where you're getting your information from, Vysota, but this is 100% wrong.knightblasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03042581488365314771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-20335343522912124312009-09-23T20:30:29.188-05:002009-09-23T20:30:29.188-05:00Catwoman,
Not the state where you practice. I loo...Catwoman,<br /><br /><i>Not the state where you practice. I looked you up and you weren't in the licensure directory.</i><br /><br />Hmm....so you are calling Trey a liar. I guess you know his legal name and the state he practices in? By the way, I believe he has already made it clear his name is not "Mink". <br /><br />And, patronizing and dismissive is the worst way to be? Interesting....Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-83459611015826657312009-09-23T19:57:16.150-05:002009-09-23T19:57:16.150-05:00"Other Anon, I do indeed call myself a psycho..."Other Anon, I do indeed call myself a psychologist. Much more importantly, the State calls me one!"<br /><br />Not the state where you practice. I looked you up and you weren't in the licensure directory.<br /><br />"Post some links for me to evaluate your point about meta-emotion as I do not see how that way of thinking applies on the face of it."<br /><br />I'm not going to do a lit review for you that you could have done for yourself, but I will quote this from a marital training manual from the Gottman institute:<br /><br />"I do not think that the research evidence supports the idea that "underneath" anger is fear or sadness. The human body is not constructed that way in terms of the basic emotions. I think they have no inherent relation to one another. Davidson and Fox's EEG research establish very clearly to me that anger is processed primarily in the left frontal lobe along with the positive affects, whereas whereas sadness and fear are processed in the right frontal lobe. Drawing on Schnierla's and others classical research on approach and withdrawal, they call the right-frontal emotions "withdrawal emotions" (fear, sadness, disgust) because they are involved with people withdrawing from the world, and left-frontal emotions as "approach" emotions (happiness, amusement interest and anger), because they are involved with people engaging the world. Anger is clearly physiologically distinct from fear, disgust and sadness. It is different autonomically (eg. the hands get hot in anger and cold in fear). It is also different in terms of frontal EEG activation. Anger is localized in the lieft frontal lobe, while fear and sadness are localized in the right-frontal lobe. And anger is very different in its ecology as well, if we rely on James Averill's extensive diary study of anger. So I do not believe that anger is fundamentally anything but anger."<br /><br />Reframing anger to be sadness or fear might sometimes work as a therapeutic technique, but it is just as likely to backfire, (especially with men). Why? Because it's patronizing and dismissive (and therefore the worst response!) to pat someone who's angry or irritated on the shoulder and say, "there, there, it's OK to feel sad, nothing to be afraid of, support is here, etc.". I think your exchange with vysota illustrates that perfectly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-2945314501123266232009-09-23T16:48:20.932-05:002009-09-23T16:48:20.932-05:00you're right about HPV link to cancer. That...<i>you're right about HPV link to cancer. That's why a vaccine has been invented to sever that link. It's now widely available to anyone who wants it.</i><br /><br />The HPV vaccine, like any vaccine, cannot sever the link between HPV and cancer. It can lower the incidence of certain strains of HPV (not all strains are covered by the vaccine, BTW, only 4 are and they account for about 70% of cervical cancers) which <i>may</i> in turn lower the incidence of certain types of cancer. But, the effectiveness of the HPV vaccine for decreasing the rate of HPV has yet to be determined.<br /><br />I would also caution women to be aware of the possible side effects of Gardasil. One of my students had a seizure following the administration of her first dose.Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-29244916640338800942009-09-23T15:30:45.163-05:002009-09-23T15:30:45.163-05:00Trey -- I will not debate theology with you other ...Trey -- I will not debate theology with you other than to say that sex is not what sends one to hell. Your religion teaches that non-belief in Christ sends one there. Whether one chooses to participate in recreational sex is entirely immaterial to one's salvation. <br /><br />As for your statements about "little things" etc., as a psychologist, you should realize what you're telling me. You're telling me, basically "if you hear anything, think it's from god". Well, sure. I can interpret anything I hear / see / experience as evidence of god. Or of fairies. Or of aliens. Any little coincidence can be written off to a deity of your choosing (Allah, Zeus, Jesus, Perun...), but that's simply a trick of human mind. If you look for patterns you will find them where there aren't any, simply due to mathematics of life. <br /><br />As for praying for me, knock yourself out. If it makes you feel better to do so, I have no objections. Many before you have done the same. Enjoy!<br /><br />Learner -- you're right about HPV link to cancer. That's why a vaccine has been invented to sever that link. It's now widely available to anyone who wants it.vysotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06107424803051683881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-43103699404740523912009-09-23T09:47:22.769-05:002009-09-23T09:47:22.769-05:00Trey,
There is the link between HPV and certain c...Trey,<br /><br />There is the link between HPV and certain cancers too. I also just wanted to say that I appreciate your desire to be respectful to others.<br /><br />Sex in the City may have been meant as a parody or satire (or not) but the women I know who are fans of that show do not see it as such. They see the behaviors on the show as something to be glorified.Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-62969299110525185962009-09-23T08:42:19.415-05:002009-09-23T08:42:19.415-05:00Other Anon, I do indeed call myself a psychologist...Other Anon, I do indeed call myself a psychologist. Much more importantly, the State calls me one! I can call myself thin, but the scales laugh at me!<br /><br />Post some links for me to evaluate your point about meta-emotion as I do not see how that way of thinking applies on the face of it.<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />And is it necessary to insult me when you disagree with me? I think we should practice interacting in a Godly fashion due to the purpose of this blog. Would you please give it a try?<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-89016138818351302062009-09-23T08:37:04.105-05:002009-09-23T08:37:04.105-05:00vysota wrote: "Sex is less deadly that many m...vysota wrote: "Sex is less deadly that many many other forms of fun. Yes, everyone should get tested before they start having sex with a new partner, or else use protection."<br /><br />That is a very different thing, you are talking about sex as sport which leads to eternal death and damnation. That is far worse than physical death. A lifestyle of sin separates us from God and who He wants us to be. That is from God's word. He knows, He made us and the universe!<br /><br />"I don't believe in god."<br /><br />That is OK, He believes in and love you. And I believe that He is working on you, calling you to Him. You will see it in little and big ways in the coming months, things you overhear, things you read, things you think. God is calling you to repentence and salvation. The way He called me and others here. <br /><br />I will continue to pray for you, and I really appreciate how your tone got more conversational and less insulting. Thanks!<br /><br />TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-86812746693167295102009-09-22T18:25:27.555-05:002009-09-22T18:25:27.555-05:00"Anger is typically a secondary emotion in re..."Anger is typically a secondary emotion in response to fear or hurt."<br /><br />I can't believe you actually call yourself a psychologist, Mink. This is just counsellor-lore, long refuted by studies of "meta-emotion".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-62852834364021880452009-09-22T16:34:22.701-05:002009-09-22T16:34:22.701-05:00Trey,
You didn't offend me at all and no apol...Trey,<br /><br />You didn't offend me at all and no apology is needed. My comment was focused on the delusions of women in a select group i.e. those who refuse to acknowledge that their aging diminishes their physical attractiveness. That's the only thing I wanted to bring out in my initial post. Merely acting as if one is 25 doesn't make a 45 year-old 25 again.<br /><br />I agree with you that good character is the most attractive trait, to me that's without question.<br /><br />We're cool. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-29443006877018268482009-09-22T16:00:26.984-05:002009-09-22T16:00:26.984-05:00Ah, so you did mean STDs. Yes, STDs kill. They do,...Ah, so you did mean STDs. Yes, STDs kill. They do, however, kill very very few people. Your link puts the number of non-HIV deaths in the Americas (i.e. the entirety of the 2 continents) at 2,000 in 2002. The population of the 2 continents is over 900 million. That would make for two ten thousandths of a percent. Frankly, it's less safe to go the the beach. You're much MUCH more likely to die of the flu (http://www.unitedjustice.com/death-statistics.html) and that's before the whole H1N1 epidemic. Bottom line: ANYTHING is deadly. Hell, you can die from a collapsing sand hole (http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/sharks/attacks/relarisksand.htm). 2,000 annual deaths in almost a billion person population is a joke. Sex is less deadly that many many other forms of fun. Yes, everyone should get tested before they start having sex with a new partner, or else use protection. But, frankly, your hobby (beer) is orders of magnitude more fatal than sex. <br /><br />As for "fear or hurt" -- I'm sorry Trey, but you're giving yourself a wee bit too much credit. I neither fear you nor do you have the capability to hurt me. I appreciate your attempts at psychology, but have you ever considered that I simply get annoyed when people make blatantly false statements? Have you ever considered the idea that idiots like Anonymous simply bug me? Have you perhaps thought that calling a spade a spade is not anger? As for Christians or men -- no, neither have hurt me. But please don't assume you or anyone on this blog (myself included) is a representative of either the entire gender or the entire religion.<br /><br />My "relationship with God"? I don't believe in god. Thus my relationship with it is the same one you have with Zeus, Odin and Bugs Bunny. I've read several books where he's a character, though.<br /><br />You pray for me, I'll think for you.vysotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06107424803051683881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-59715576565483933862009-09-22T15:14:53.711-05:002009-09-22T15:14:53.711-05:00Grrr, I hit the wrong key on the puter and sent th...Grrr, I hit the wrong key on the puter and sent the post to hyperspace! Let me try this again.<br /><br />http://www.cureresearch.com/s/stds/stats.htm<br /><br />About half way down you will find the death rates for various areas of the world from non-HIV STDs. The numbers are much higher if you include HIV, but in much of the world, the primary mode of infection for HIV is not sexual. There are lots of other good sites with hard stats that you can find if you wish..<br /><br />As for the hurt and anger, your posts strike me as so angry and insulting. That was your point, right? Anger is typically a secondary emotion in response to fear or hurt. Are you particularly angry with Christians and men? Did Christians hurt you? I am so sorry if we did. Or was it men that hurt you more?<br /><br />Thanks for answering my questions too. I have work respondibilities that will take me away from the computer for a few hours. But I will remember to say a prayer or two for you. What is your relationship with God like?<br /><br />Talk to you later and thanks for the good tone of the last post. And thanks for waiting. I look forward to reading your answers.<br /><br />TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-6703029052431644382009-09-22T13:18:54.087-05:002009-09-22T13:18:54.087-05:00I asked you several questions, TMink. One of them ...I asked you several questions, TMink. One of them is: how do you go about dying from sex? You claim, and I quote, "In reality, sex is like over proof rum. You can get hurt and die from it". How do you die from sex? Also, a new one: where does your claim of "hurt and anger" come from?<br /><br />Go for it. I'll wait.vysotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06107424803051683881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-26137316791896386912009-09-22T12:56:03.972-05:002009-09-22T12:56:03.972-05:00You would have to ask a question before I can answ...You would have to ask a question before I can answer it. 8)<br /><br />And while Jesus no doubt does not read blogs, He reads hearts and hears prayers. I just wanted you to know that I am praying for you. I want you to know that there is hope and healing for you if you will accept it.<br /><br />God bless you vysota, I am praying for you.<br /><br />TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-36076651926307608922009-09-22T10:31:07.658-05:002009-09-22T10:31:07.658-05:00LOL. You think Jesus reads this blog? You don'...LOL. You think Jesus reads this blog? You don't think he has better things to do?<br /><br />Also... "hurt and anger"? Homie, you're projecting (Freud, take pity on his soul). I'm neither hurt nor angry. I'm frustrated, but unless Jesus is going to thread the needle of the wire bonder for me I doubt your prayer will have much impact. <br /><br />And you're still too chicken-blank to answer my posts. Jesus may have died for you, but he certainly has failed to give you any guts.vysotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06107424803051683881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4423802276620945726.post-69793902517697314012009-09-22T10:19:52.675-05:002009-09-22T10:19:52.675-05:00He died for all us sinners. Maybe especially you! ...He died for all us sinners. Maybe especially you! He certainly died for condescending pricks like me. And I took Him up on it, and He has made my life so much better. <br /><br />He can heal you of your anger and hurt. Angels in heaven will rejoice if you ask Him to forgive you. Nothing about you, nothing you have done, can seperate your from God's grace and love if you ask for it by accepting Christ's death for you. Your entire life will change as you grow in obedience to His word. <br /><br />He is knocking, and you can let Him in. God give you the strength and wisdom to accept that God sacrificed His son for you, so that you could be acceptable to God. Not on your own righteousness, but based on Christ's sacrificial love. <br /><br />Father, work on Vysota, thank you for bringing Vysota here, help us to show Vysota love and care, help us to not return hate and venom in return, melt Vysota's fear and resistance, you made Vysota, and you made Vysota for your glory. Bring Vysota back to You as Your forgiven child. In the name of your holy Son.<br /><br />Amen.TMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.com