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Thursday, December 17, 2009

Christian Women Are Easy?

Christian women are easy ... or, uh, at least this guy thinks so. Needless to say, his message is disturbing to me as a Christian man. And yet I see his point. Take his post like you would take one of the Screwtape Letters. He might be correct in a lot of cases. The Church in the West ain't what it used to be.

It takes two to tango, ladies. So I won't be blaming the PUAs who bed you as much as I will be blaming you, who claim to follow Christ and claim to know better than those "worldy women" that I can't date. Although I believe in second chances, you'll might end up being one of these (especially the one that says "Project"). Don't say you haven't been warned.
"So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall! No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it." (1 Cor. 10:12-13, NIV)
Later.

20 comments:

Amir Larijani said...

I'll comment more on this later, but let's just say that Baachman is right.

In the singles groups--especially at the "mega churches"--there is a substantial number of divorced women in the younger brackets. Most will tell you they are "Biblically divorced"; i.e., the ex was a nonbeliever, the ex was abusive, the ex was a philanderer...

He is also right about the "raising holy hands" dynamic. This is more prevalent in the more charismatic churches, but you find some of them in the SBC world, too. Again, many of them are "Biblically divorced" camp. The single ones--never married--often turn out to be divas.

I was once a regular in the AOL Christian Singles chat room. I had no small number of sexual offers from the women in that room, including from one who was ENGAGED! If getting laid had been the goal, I would have had no problem. What I did not find in those venues: marriageable women.

That leads me to a very important piece of advice to the single adult (male or female): If thou dost want a Christian spouse, thou must stay the hell away from "singles ministries!"

Baachman's blog is also a splash of cold water in the face of Christians regarding authenticity of one's walk, and a sobering lesson about discernment.

Justin said...

The perils of Churchianity?

To put it in perspective, though, there is little doubt that Church is still your best venue for meeting a woman committed to a moral vision. Is every woman who steps on church grounds Sunday morning living a moral life? Uh, no... DUH!

As disturbing as his cynical and manipulative attitude is, let's be honest, most PUAs are not going to start going to church to meet girls. In fact, wicked men avoid the church like the plague, as he himself admits. The power of the cross to ward off vampires still works (when you properly understand who the modern vampires are).

The idea that bad women put on the garb of Christianity in order to attract a good man is exactly analogous to what the Game bloggers advocate.

wombatty said...

I was once a regular in the AOL Christian Singles chat room. I had no small number of sexual offers from the women in that room, including from one who was ENGAGED! If getting laid had been the goal, I would have had no problem. What I did not find in those venues: marriageable women.

Now c'mon Amir, let's be honest - these women are not at fault. The problem is that you must have 'led them down the path' of immorality - the poor dears jut couldn't resist. If I've learned nothing from Motte Brown, I've certainly learned that ;-)

Amir Larijani said...

Wombatty: No kidding!

Hestia said...

FWIW, I attended youth group in my teens with numerous girls who made True Love Waits pledges when I did...and several had babies shortly afterward and at least two (that I know of) were brought to the abortion clinic by their pro-life mothers. I also knew many "technical virgins" who dressed very immodestly, did "everything but" with their boyfriends, and were not at all chaste in their behavior. Several of these girls were loudly proclaiming their virginity when it came time to marry, despite how unchaste they had been living. This might not say that Christian women are easy so much as there exist girls and women in churches who do not care much for sexual purity and would rather tow the line or walk the worldly path outright.

Anonymous said...

You're right on eith this one Anakin. A woman friend of mine told me of another lady in a singles ministry who met a 'godly' man through church. Or so she thought.

She soon began sleeping with him, believing that he was 'safe' because she met him in church, only to catch an STD from him. She was shocked to think that sleeping with a 'church man' would have such results.

She still doesn't get that her experience was only two people of similar morals beginning a relationship. She sees herself as the victim of his poor morals.

Typical of a woman's ability to lie to herself ABOUT herself.

vysota said...

Careful there, church girls! You better fly straight, or Anakin might not consider you as worthy of hisself.

wombatty said...

Several of these girls were loudly proclaiming their virginity when it came time to marry, despite how unchaste they had been living.

The empty can rattles the most, they say...

Professor Hale said...

It has been my observation that a woman can still claim to be virtuous if she only hooks up once a week, when she is drunk or stoned, and she regrets it the next day, which is coincidentally Sunday.

Like an alcoholic who claims "never again" until he gets thirsty.

Professor Hale said...

Our Church Divorced persons ministry group starts their introductions with "this is not a dating group".

Riiight.

Anonymous said...

These are troubling times when even the supposed elect have lost their saltiness.

Anonymous said...

Anakin,

Is there an Ignore function here? There's a certain attention-seeking drama queen who posts regularly on men's sites (one post by the troll here) posts that are of negative intellectual worth.

An Ignore button would be most helpful in eliminating the worthless posts by the sad troll.

MarkyMark said...

I don't know of Blogger has an 'ignore' button, but you can ignore the troll anyway. Just don't acknowledge anything they say; once they lose their attention fix, they'll go away...

Anonymous said...

Anakin-

It is time for justly-administered censorship.

While keeping the blog open for honest dissent is in keeping with great ideals, allowing a whiny, bitchy child to interfere with intelligent dissent is not required, in my opinion.

The child has shown that s/he is unworthy of the freedom given, and must be restrained, for his/her own good, and the good of others.

I think that deleting the child's posts would provide proper censure for a puerile fool debating in bad faith.

Please consider deleting those comments.

Triton said...

An Ignore button would be most helpful in eliminating the worthless posts by the sad troll.

Anakin should switch to Haloscan. Then he could not only edit or delete comments, but could ban commenters outright.

As for the topic at hand, I am undecided as to whether or not a Christian woman is more or less likely to be virtuous than a non-Christian. I suppose my uncertainty is, in itself, quite telling.

Of course, for Christian men who have given up on pursuing women altogether, it doesn't really matter.

Anonymous said...

What Justin said:

"The idea that bad women put on the garb of Christianity in order to attract a good man is exactly analogous to what the Game bloggers advocate."

Exactly. Why these guys are quoting someone who brags about getting "pussy" at church like he's Shakespeare, I don't know.

Anonymous said...

No,I dont think so..

christian said...

You're question confuses me. What do you mean exactly by 'christian women are easy'?

Is it easy to get?

If a woman is really likes you whether she's smart or foolish, she will be easy to get.

Anonymous said...

Most of the women in my small church are single moms, battered moms, recovering addicts. I am "glad" and honestly happy they have come HERE. Church.

The issue is that ALL of them. No matter what race, what background...all them NEVER accpet responsibilty for anything in their life. It's always some "no good mans' fault" or the classic shutdown "You don't understand what 'I' went through." All them tend to believe they NEVER did anything wrong. Concerning drug addiction, or really poor choices concerning their children, their selfishness.....nope, it is ALWAYS somehow....the boyfriends fault. Their dad's fault.

All of them cannot understand WHY the single men of the church don't EVEN get involved with them on ANY level.

Anonymous said...

I get what most of you are saying. Technically im still a kid but i know a desperate woman when I see one. Not all chics are like that though ( Im 14 and a girl) you may not meet your future spouse in a church but you never know?Any way point is that im seeing a lot of girls who are being labeled as Christian but who are clearly not. So be watchful of who your saying is and isnt a believer.